Accusation Thread - Dispute

[ghant]

And, if iobit did copy some definition from malwarebytes, what is problem?

People are make too much trouble on this!

[ghant]

"illegal" ... "immoral"

No, I do not think these word is correct to describe any

[bags]

Originally Posted by ghant

And, if iobit did copy some definition from malwarebytes, what is problem?

People are make too much trouble on this!

A problem in perception it seems.

A man invents and builds something that makes him wealthy. By his work, creativity and timing did he get to this point. If someone steals (takes without payment or even credit) his ideas so that he makes less money, or perhaps no money. There is a victim and a criminal in this case, and nobody I would wager that is educated in North America or Western Europe or Australia/New Zealand would have any trouble in identifying which is which.

It seems the education and assumptions are different elsewhere. If people in one part of the world are going to try and create and run a global business then they had better understand the customs, cultures, and laws of other areas, or they are going fail, and suffer public relations storms such as this one.

[bags]

Originally Posted by ghant

"illegal" ... "immoral"

No, I do not think these word is correct to describe any

It depends on your point of view doesn't it?

People that objecting to IObit at the moment are offended, their sense of fairness is in uproar. You may not agree with it, but if the people that run IObit do not come to understand it, and quickly, it's going to be very bad for your profits in North America and Western Europe.

[whitedragon]

2 excellent softwares. One before the other, much before the other. The second software just happened to copy exactly the same thing. IOBit is a disgrace and I have removed it from both of my computers.

[whitedragon]

Originally Posted by ghant

And, if iobit did copy some definition from malwarebytes, what is problem?

People are make too much trouble on this!

The problem is IOBit detects harmless software that was put there purposely to catch this sort of thing. Either they copied them or they detect everything as FP. Either way its bad. Who wants clean files randomly deleted? Who wants a scamming software companies software?

[bags]

Originally Posted by StJohns

How many years did they bash IE browser?

Still has the market share!!

IOBit will be making good,simple ,secure software for end users long after
The Wilders crew have abandoned Malwarebytes,(as the already have turned on SuperAntiSpyware), for the new flavor of the day.

IE has market share because the business practices they used created a huge market of captive buyers (can you imagine that they won in court with the argument that a browser was part of an OS?). Bad example.

Firefox blows IE away - I only keep it to grab updates directly from M$, and the few backwards sites that require it.

SuperAntiSpyware turned into junk at once. Then they were turned out, why should they be turned on before. I am cheap and hate paying for anything but I bought your product in May 2009. In October 2009 you infected me with an Adware hijacker that took days to remove. In Nov 2009 this charge comes. Some people are already polarized, but the mindshare in the middle is still vast. If you can defend yourselves you will survive, and MWB will get a big black eye.

We will see, rhetoric means little at this point. But somehow the angry/outraged anti IObit side is more clear then the IObit side who is drowning in multiple excuses and accusations. Come on guys, get a story and stick with it, all this extra chatter makes you look less then perfect (edited to avoid a ban).

[StJohns]

@Bags,You are angry. Maybe you have a right to be,although it seems from your own post,you were more concerned with venting your spleen than having your IOBit software issue fixed.
If you at the time, prefered a good rant rather than resolution,fine,it was
your choice.

Accusations of Fanboy-ism aside,we all have Software vendors and products
we like or dislike.

You referred to Malwarebytes as "The Gold Standard",and that Firefox "blows IE away".

Please do not tell me I do not have the right to have the same positive feeling for IOBit,that you do for your chosen products.
I can assure you,there is no shortage of drama in the history of either.

@testando:

Are you in the slightest way,capable of conceiving how little I am
concerned with your assessment of my mental health?

[handyman]

Funny how this sworn defender of IObit "StJohns" appeared right around the time the allegations surfaced

[vman]

Originally Posted by whitedragon

The problem is IOBit detects harmless software that was put there purposely to catch this sort of thing. Either they copied them or they detect everything as FP. Either way its bad. Who wants clean files randomly deleted? Who wants a scamming software companies software?

Maybe I can shed some light on the beginning statement. Iobit uses heuristics, and so, false positives is bound. Like A2, when heuristics is enabled, it tends to pick up things that are safe, as dangerous.

False positives are common, some tend to spurt out more then other, but they are common. AV comparatives did a test, and one of their results on antiviurs' was based on the false positives they generated.

I hate false positives as much as the next guy, but realistically, its there, no matter how much we hate it.