Start Menu 8: suggestions, and progression

[Cicely]

Hi kiroyakuza，

 

Thanks for your suggestion. I will report it to our product team for consideration.

 

And you can make a start button of windows 8.1 Enterprise by yourself. Please look at the link http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=14253

 

Here users make a lot of nice buttons. :wink:

[enoskype]

This PC vs. Computer

 

Hi Cicely,

 

I have a tiny suggestion.

 

Probably Start Menu 8 differentiates if the installed OS is Windows 8 or Windows 8.1.

 

If so, the name of the icon for computer is Computer in Windows 8, but it is This PC in Windows 8.1. So there should be strings for Computer and also there should be strings for This PC in the English language files and Start Menu 8 will use the relevant ones for the relevant Windows OS (ie. Windows 8 and Windows 8.1).

 

Please see it on the attached image for Windows 8.1 as of now (Start Menu 8 -1.4)

 

Cheers.

[Cicely]

Hi enoskype,

 

Your suggestion is great and thanks for it. :-)

 

I have forwarded it to our program manager and this suggestion will be adopted in future versions.

 

Cheers. :lol:

[LaurenceJ]

Another new release of Start Menu 8! And with this release (v.1.4.0.897), numbers 4a and 8 found in the first post of this thread have also been resolved. Thank you indeed.

 

(I would have edited that message and marked those numbers as resolved but it seems that I am no longer able to edit my post.)

 

Start Menu 8 through its release cycle certainly continues to improve, not only with bug fixing, but with features added. Much thanks for all the "labour of love" which goes into making it what it is. (What else could it be eh. :-))

 

regards,

Laurence

[LaurenceJ]

confused menu links, and no mouse scrolling. . .

 

The operating system I am using is Windows 8.1 Pro.

 

Since upgrading to Start Menu 8, v.1.4.0.897, when I click on the Downloads link on the Start Menu it opens up the Videos folder; and when I click on the Videos link on the Start Menu it opens up the Downloads folder.

 

Also since upgrading to v.1.4.0.897, the middle mouse wheel no longer will scroll the All Programs menu - I must now use the vertical scrollbar in the All Programs menu to scroll through its menu.

 

And if I uninstall version 1.4.0.897 and then install version 1.3.0.0 all works as intended (that is, the mouse wheel scrolls the All Programs menu, and the Downloads link opens the Downloads folder and the Videos link opens the Videos folder - all as it is supposed to).

 

But other than these issues, all else (so far at least) appears to be working A-OK.

 

regards,

Laurence

[enoskype]

Hi all,

 

I confirm the bug that LaurenceJ has explained about Start Menu 8, v.1.4.0.897.

 

The work around could be to show both folders (Videos and Downloads) as menu and then ONLY hovering over works correctly. On the other hand, clicking on the names reveal the same bug.

 

@LaurenceJ,

My middle mouse wheel seems to work. Did you clicked to the All Programs area after opening it with the middle wheel before trying to scroll with the middle wheel?

 

Cheers.

[LaurenceJ]

Hi enoskype,

 

Yes, if I do either of the following then I can scroll All Programs with the mouse wheel: 1) left click once on one of the submenu program titles (which opens the submenu) or left click twice (once opening it, once closing the submenu); 2) or if I right click on the top single program's shortcut (which opens the context menu) or right click twice (once opening it, once closing the context menu).

 

However in v.1.3.0.0 all that was/is required was to click on the Start Menu 8 start button, click on All Programs - and begin scrolling via the middle mouse button.

 

Thanks enoskype.

 

regards,

Laurence

[Cicely]

Hi All,

 

First, thanks a lot for enoskype's help.

 

Regarding the issue LaurenceJ and enoskype reported, please follow the steps below:

 

1. Exit Start Menu 8.

 

2. Download the new StartMenu8.exe from http://wikisend.com/download/605814/StartMenu8.exe

 

3. Use the new StartMenu8.exe to replace the original one under the installation directory of Start Menu 8

 

The installation directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\IObit\Start Menu 8 or C:\Program Files\IObit\Start Menu 8

 

4. Run the program again.

 

Then please post back to let us know whether the issue is solved or not. Thanks.

[enoskype]

Hi Cicely,

 

The new executable has solved all issues mentioned above including mouse middle wheel scrolling.

 

Thank you and cheers.

[LaurenceJ]

Hi Cicely,

 

The new executable has solved all issues mentioned above including mouse middle wheel scrolling.

 

Thank you and cheers.

Ditto!

 

Thank you for providing such a speedy resolution. A Plus.

 

regards,

Laurence

[LaurenceJ]

Hi Cicely,

 

I have a tiny suggestion.

 

Probably Start Menu 8 differentiates if the installed OS is Windows 8 or Windows 8.1.

 

If so, the name of the icon for computer is Computer in Windows 8, but it is This PC in Windows 8.1. So thereshould be strings for Computer and also there should be strings for This PC in the English language files and Start Menu 8 will use the relevant ones for the relevant Windows OS (ie. Windows 8 and Windows 8.1).

 

Please see it on the attached image for Windows 8.1 as of now (Start Menu 8 -1.4)

 

Cheers.

Hi enoskype. If your suggestion is implemented would that distinction between Win8 and Win8.1 be also seen in the Start Menu itself, or in Start Menu 8 Settings only? Presently I am running Windows 8.1 but clicking on the Start button shows "Computer" on the right-side menu - whereas it should say "This PC" as you mention.

 

regards,

Laurence

[enoskype]

Hi LaurenceJ,

 

If implemented, I suppose it will change everywhere in the next version of Start Menu 8, as "computer" string is used in more than one place in the language file which means it should be applied in th right-hand side menu also.

The wording "computer" in Settings and the wording "computer" in the right-side menu uses 2 different strings of the RCData anyway.

 

Here is the workaround for you in Windows 8.1:

 

Open English.lng @ C:\Program Files (x86)\IObit\Start Menu 8\Language

folder with a text editor and change the bold Computer words to This PC under the headers below:

 

[startMenu8_ASCStartMenuFrm]

lbl_Computer.caption=Computer ======>>>> This PC

 

[startMenu8_M]

Computer_M=Computer ======>>>> This PC

 

Save English.lng accepting the changes and restart Start Menu 8.

 

See the result on the attached image.

 

Cheers.

[LaurenceJ]

@ enoskype

Thank you good sir. Start Menu 8 is looking better and better. :-)

 

regards,

Laurence

[LaurenceJ]

"Pin to Start Menu" and "Pin to Start". . .

 

Ready, set - here goes. . .

 

I thought that "Pin to Start Menu" (or "Pin to Start" or some such wording) had already been added to the All Programs menu of Start Menu 8, but I do not see it; so I uninstalled v.1.4 and re-installed v.1.3 but it isn't there. I'm confused - was it never added?

 

The only "Pin to Start Menu" I see is on the context menu of the section which contains the Frequently Used Programs shortcuts. (And that "Pin to. . ." works.)

 

***

So I think I'll request this feature again: how about adding "Pin to Start Menu" to the context menu of the All Programs menu?

***

 

Also, if I right click on any of the icon shortcuts on my desktop I know there is a "Pin to Start", but it doesn't do anything on my machine as far as I can tell: no shortcut shows up on any menu, neither on the first opening Start Button menu nor on the All Programs menu. It appears that the desktop "Pin to Start" does not work at all. . . anyone else?

 

regards,

Laurence

[LaurenceJ]

Also' date=' if I right click on any of the icon shortcuts on my desktop I know there is a "Pin to Start", but it doesn't do anything on my machine as far as I can tell: no shortcut shows up on any menu, neither on the first opening Start Button menu nor on the All Programs menu. It appears that the desktop "Pin to Start" does not work at all. . . anyone else?[/quote']

OK, that "Pin to Start" does do something after all: it pins the shortcuts to the Metro Start screen!

 

When we right click on any of the icon shortcuts on the desktop, I think Desktop users could make good use of a "Pin to Start Menu" being added to that context menu. What say ye IObit? :-)

 

regards,

Laurence

[enoskype]

Great observation LaurenceJ,

 

Yes, I have missed that "Pin to Start" in Metro Start too. Thanks for the info.

 

OK, I agree for the "Pin to Start Menu", but it may be better to have "Pin to Start Menu" in the right click menu of all shortcuts (All programs of Start Menu 8, and Desktop shortcuts, etc.) like in "Classic Shell" program.

 

Cheers.

[LaurenceJ]

Truth be told: I'd be delighted to have "Pin to Start Menu" just be added to the context menu of the All Programs menu (have I mentioned that before ;-)), and forget about adding it to the context menu of the desktop icons.

 

Also, not all installed programs have a desktop icon added (user choice or whatever), plus there are times when desktop icons have been deleted. However all programs installed usually/always are found listed under the All Programs menu; so from there we could pin whatever we want to the Start Menu.

 

Just my two cents (plus inflation). OK, I'll now shut up about it.

 

regards,

Laurence

[Cicely]

Hi enoskype and LaurenceJ,

 

Good to hear that the issues reported before have been solved.

 

This function "Pin to Start Menu" in the right click menu of both All programs and Desktop shortcuts would be added in the next version.

 

Feel free to post your other ideas and suggestions. :-D

[LaurenceJ]

Thank you Cicely! Much appreciated.

 

regards,

Laurence

[Advocate512]

Letting us have both Start Menu 8 and Windows 8.1

 

Btw, from an effective-branding perspective, you should call the program Start Menu 8/8.1, so that everyone knows it is for both operating systems. Always track the official release, and then fork from there Start Menu 8/8.1 v2.3.4....

 

But I digress. Is it possible to either 1) add all Windows 8.1 right-click functions such as Windows Powershell/Powershell (admin) ((or Command Prompt/Prompt (admin)), the various most-important Control Panels (Power Options, Event Viewer, System, Device Manager, Network Connections, Disk & Computer Managements, Task Manager, Control Panel, etc.) in the body if the Start Menu as a more useful collection than the Administrator and System Tools folders that are in the All Programs section or 2)Insert a customizable folder in the body of the Start Menu?

[johnye_pt]

I just tried Start Menu 8 on a Netbook running Windows 8.1. Since resolution is 1024x600, taskbar is set to small size, however Start Menu 8 button stays at normal size, ie bigger than the taskbar. Can this be fixed on the next version? Other than this, everything works as expected ;)

[Dark_Knight]

Hi.

I'm using Startmenu 8.1

 

When i press [Win] button, it's show the startmenu with search textbox focused. But all my input doesn't go into that textbox. I must click on that textbox to start searching. That a bit inconvenient.

 

The search process is very slow.

when i search the keyword 'word', it take more than 5s for result to be appear.

 

It should display the result right after an item has been found. And the background thread will add more result as soon as more item are found.

[LaurenceJ]

Hi.

I'm using Startmenu 8.1

 

When i press [Win] button, it's show the startmenu with search textbox focused. But all my input doesn't go into that textbox. I must click on that textbox to start searching. That a bit inconvenient.

 

The search process is very slow.

when i search the keyword 'word', it take more than 5s for result to be appear.

 

It should display the result right after an item has been found. And the background thread will add more result as soon as more item are found.

I am unable to reproduce either of those issues on my machine. When I press the Win key the IObit Start Menu 8 (I am using version 1.4.0.902) immediately opens up with the cursor focus already being in the "Search program and files" text field ready for keyboard input. And as soon as I enter text the search results pop right up.

 

Hmn, I wonder what is causing those issues on your machine. What version of Start Menu 8 are you using?

 

regards,

Laurence

[LaurenceJ]

I just tried Start Menu 8 on a Netbook running Windows 8.1. Since resolution is 1024x600, taskbar is set to small size, however Start Menu 8 button stays at normal size, ie bigger than the taskbar. Can this be fixed on the next version? Other than this, everything works as expected ;)

Hi johnye_pt. I'm curious: does the start button display normally (stay within the confines of the taskbar like other taskbar icons) if the "Use small taskbar buttons" setting found under Taskbar Properties is unchecked?

 

I know if I check that setting mentioned above then the start button exceeds the taskbar on this 24" desktop monitor with a screen resolution of 1920 x 1080 as well.

 

regards,

Laurence

[Dark_Knight]

I am unable to reproduce either of those issues on my machine. When I press the Win key the IObit Start Menu 8 (I am using version 1.4.0.902) immediately opens up with the cursor focus already being in the "Search program and files" text field ready for keyboard input. And as soon as I enter text the search results pop right up.

 

Hmn, I wonder what is causing those issues on your machine. What version of Start Menu 8 are you using?

 

regards,

Laurence

 

Hi.

I'm using StartMenu 8 v1.4.0.897

my OS is Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.131006-1505)

 

the lastest on website is build 897. Where did you get the build 902?