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Start Menu 8: suggestions, and progression


LaurenceJ

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Hi All,

 

@ johnye_pt, For the issue "however Start Menu 8 button stays at normal size, ie bigger than the taskbar" , as LaurenceJ said have you checked " "Use small taskbar buttons" in settings?

 

If you ticked it, but still get the issue, please send us the related screenshots.

 

Guide for taking screenshot.

 

http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm

 

@Dark_Knight, for the issue you mentioned. We will do a test to see whether we can reproduce the issue. Please describe it more details and then we can check how did it happen.

 

@LaurenceJ, sincerely thanks for your active reply. :mrgreen:

 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Hi.

I'm using Startmenu 8.1

 

When i press [Win] button, it's show the startmenu with search textbox focused. But all my input doesn't go into that textbox. I must click on that textbox to start searching. That a bit inconvenient.

 

The search process is very slow.

when i search the keyword 'word', it take more than 5s for result to be appear.

 

It should display the result right after an item has been found. And the background thread will add more result as soon as more item are found.

 

Hi Dark_Knight,

 

Is the search progress always very slow? Did it happen every time when you search?

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Hi johnye_pt. I'm curious: does the start button display normally (stay within the confines of the taskbar like other taskbar icons) if the "Use small taskbar buttons" setting found under Taskbar Properties is unchecked?

 

I know if I check that setting mentioned above then the start button exceeds the taskbar on this 24" desktop monitor with a screen resolution of 1920 x 1080 as well.

 

regards,

Laurence

 

Yes, when using normal taskbar buttons the start button also displays normally, but if using small icons the start button maintains its original size. Here are 3 screenshots with normal taskbar, small taskbar and small taskbar with start menu clicked:

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Hi johnye_pt,

 

In Win7, when you select "Use small icons" , the start button also maintains its original size.

 

Our Start Menu 8 is designed based on Win7, so it's normal. :-)

 

But we will forward your concern to our specialists to consider it carefully.

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Memory leak

 

I updated and tried again just this morning, don't no if its newer than the one I had tried previously about 2weeks ago but there is pooh loads of memory being wasted, when starmenu 8 is running, I go from 14% usage to 18%, and I have 16gb of ram so that's a big jump, it looks like the lag as gone from the start screen, however at first login my mouse cursor is invisible lol. looks like im going back to 1.3v as my memory usage stayed the same at 14% EDIT: Nope.. its still got the lag on the start screen, if you set to boot straight to desktop then you will never see the lag, but if you boot to start screen it causes the lag until you click on something and enter it. Going back to 1.3v. So glad I saved a copy of the old one.

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Hi boe323,

 

Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Please follow the steps below to help us look into the issue:

 

1. Exit Start Menu 8 ( Right click the Start icon, and choose "Exit" on the right-click menu)

 

2. Open the installation directory of Start Menu 8 (Right click the desktop icon of Start Menu 8, and choose "Open file location" ). Find StartMenu_Index.exe there and rename it as StartMenu_Index_Old.exe

 

3. Run Start Menu 8 and test it to see whether the issue is solved or not.

 

Thank you for your test.

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@ IObit. . .

 

These suggestions still apply to Start Menu 8 (now at version 1.1.0.45).

 

Upon installation the first thing that gets my attention is just how good it looks, including the Settings window. And in addition to its good looks it has a good feature set as well. Nice job!

 

Still, just like all areas of life, an improvement here or there could be made, and could prove beneficial.

 

Resolved! 1) Upon restarting the computer the Metro/Modern screen still momentarily flashes (showing itself) before entering the desktop.

And because I have tried several other Start Menu and Button alternatives, free and paid, and most of them bypass the Windows Metro Start screen without it ever showing at all, not even so much as a fleeting corner-of-the-eye flash, I know the coding 'magic' to do it exists. May the force be also with you. :-)

 

Resolved! 2a) and 2b) ("Start button bug is corrected")

 

Resolved! 3) Under the All Programs menu how about adding "Pin to Start Menu" ("Pin to Start" works superbly) to the context menu? It would effectively eliminate having to use any of the work-arounds to accomplish this action.

 

4a) Regarding the "Frequently used programs" setting, what about:

Adding another option to its drop-down selection: *Do not show*

Frequently used programs: Sort by name
                         Sort by last access time   
                         Do not show

 

Resolved! 4b) Adding a setting for the user to choose how many frequently used programs may show: from 0 (none) to X (max number to show)

 

Resolved! 5a) and 5b) (the ever taller growing start menu: by pinning 1 and 2 and 3, and more, items to it, watch it grow)

 

But if we had one or both options as mentioned above in number 4 regarding the Frequently used programs, then I know the potential for the growing start menu would certainly go a long way toward its resolution - at least for me. :-) (Because given a choice, I would not use the Frequently used programs list; and so pinned items would first have that white space to add to without having to grow taller.)

 

(An interesting solution to 4b, 5a and 5b.)

 

Resolved! 6) Under Settings | General Settings, to avoid confusion, what about making a change from "Left click to open Windows Start Menu" to "Left click to open Windows Metro Screen"?

For consistency sake I suggested the wording "Metro Screen" because you already use "Metro Screen" (in the setting which states, "Skip Metro Screen") to refer to the new Windows Start Screen.

 

Resolved! 7) As 'markjen' has mentioned in a post of his, there are a few typos found in the StartMenu8 Service Properties sheet which cry out for correction (presently spelled as "StrartMenuService"). The typos found there are under: Service name, Display name, and Description.

 

8) The setting Deactivate Metro Hot Corners (when enabled) prevents the user from seeing and closing any running Metro apps (usually accomplished by pointing the mouse to the upper left corner), and thus free up any resources they may be using.

* How about making it so that the user can individually Deactivate Metro Hot Corners, upper and/or lower, rather than both at once.

 

9) And, I suppose while I'm at it. . . what about an option to Deactivate the "Drag-to-close" hand? (Unnecessary.)

 

As the Bugs was fond of saying, "that's all folks" (at least all that I am aware of and presently comes to mind). But I wouldn't be surprised to hear someone say, 'oh that's all is it.' And if so, point heard and received. ;-)

 

And to you IObit, thank you for reading and giving consideration to all suggestions and reports submitted.

 

regards,

Laurence

Tanks from IObit,s Team

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Hi vmarkovic82, welcome to IObit Forum! :-D

 

"Run..." function already exists in Start Menu 8.

 

Have a look at the attached image and please follow the numbers in Settings of Start Menu 8 and choose "Show as link".

 

Cheers.

 

Yes I found it thank you :-D:-D

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Left side & bottom & corner

 

My suggestion is:

I think most of the people tend to hit the Start button by doing a long&fast movement with the mouse to the bottom left corner of the screen and just clicking, instead of carefully positioning it onto the button.

The problem with this is that with this software, it seems to be a ~5px wide bar and a ~5px tall line at the left and bottom edge of the screen respectively, where the button does not react to clicking. (Acually, it only gains focus when one positions the cursor right onto the graphic, the transparent areas don't respond to mouse actions.

 

It'd be really lovely if we could hit the Start button by doing rough movements even at the bottommost and leftmost pixel instead of carefully positioning it onto the nontransparent areas - at least when the Hot corner is disabled.

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Hi boe323,

 

Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Please follow the steps below to help us look into the issue:

 

1. Exit Start Menu 8 ( Right click the Start icon, and choose "Exit" on the right-click menu)

 

2. Open the installation directory of Start Menu 8 (Right click the desktop icon of Start Menu 8, and choose "Open file location" ). Find StartMenu_Index.exe there and rename it as StartMenu_Index_Old.exe

 

3. Run Start Menu 8 and test it to see whether the issue is solved or not.

 

Thank you for your test.

 

hey ...sorry its been a while ....this workaround actually works !! ....great, but why add that .exe if it works without it ? I did however have to add my own startup task, wouldn't start or add the task on its own at login

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hey ...sorry its been a while ....this workaround actually works !! ....great, but why add that .exe if it works without it ? I did however have to add my own startup task, wouldn't start or add the task on its own at login

UPDATE: It only stops the memory leak issue, found out today that it still lags at logon while in the main start page where the tiles are.

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The latest update version1.5, that new service you've added eats a pooh load of memory up, whats it for? ...I go from 12% usage to 21% ...that is loads of memory, very bad. Every update gets worse, I bet no one even uses this anymore.

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Hi boe323,

 

Thanks for your feedback.

 

What did you do when the memory goes from 12% usage to 21%? Does the issue happen when you load SM 1.5 when you boot up or when you search though SM 1.5?

 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Sluggish since 1.50

 

I upgraded to 1.50 in the last few days and set a picture in the User Interface tab. Since then when I show the start menu it's really unresponsive, the mouse "lags" over the start menu, it's like dragging it through syrup.

 

Once the picture loads it seems to be responsive again. Happens every time I startup. The image is a JPG and only 320x308 and about 7kb in size.

 

I'm going to try removing the JPG and checking performance next time I reboot.

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With the account picture hidden in User Interface Startmenu is back to being fast and responsive. I've had it that way for a couple days and no problems with it. I'll try turning it back on and see whether performance is good or bad over the next couple days.

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