Registry Cleaners!!

[garybear]

I would like to add my 2 cents about registry cleaners. I read SuperDave's post advising a member to remove Eusing Registry Cleaner. I read the whole web site about Registry cleaners doing more harm than good. I'm by no means an expert on any thing. I am just a baby when it comes to computers. I'm 72 years old ,but I have only had a computer for 6 years. I use the registry cleaner in ASC3 and I use RegSeeker. I just recently helped two friends clean up their PC's, and witnessed a great improvement in speed after using cleaners on their PC's. One friend had well over 2500 registry errors and all were deleted without causing any problems. Before some one jumps down my throat; I had them create a full back up image with Macrium Reflect. I have personally uninstalled programs and tried to reinstall that program, and been unable to because parts of that program remained in my registry. Only after cleaning up ,was I able to reinstall that program. I agree that some knowledge is required before using a registry cleaner, but I strongly disagree that more harm than good will happen when these cleaners are used. My PC runs faster than the first time I used it and that's because I keep it cleaned up with ASC3 and other tools (CCleaner, Regseeker, and a few more.=== PS that's all for now, but I'm sure I will be adding more in the future.==garybear http://www.windowsbbs.com/windows-xp/61015-xp-fixes-myth-1-registry-cleaners-3.html#post335940 PSS Please read post #45 PSSS opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and this is my opinion!!

[PCTech]

Gary - You are absolutely correct, at least IMO. Registry cleaners have come a long way in recent years, and with the ability to do full backups, should now be a regular staple of maintaining any PC.

[sunny staines]

" I read SuperDave's post advising a member to remove Eusing Registry Cleaner"

 

I missed superdaves post what was the problem with eusing i have used it for years in xp,vista,w7 without problem [freeversion]

 

what was the problem with eusing??

 

I am aware of the plus and negative of registry cleaners and totaly agree with garybear. being careful which cleaner you use and a backup are a must

[garybear]

Hi friends!!

 

Hi friends. Caution should always be used when your messing with the registry. You don't have to be so scared that you never use a cleaner. If you always have your OS backed up, then you can keep your PC tuned up and running at its best with cleaners. If I chose to uninstall Ccleaner, I would use Revo or advanced uninstaller first, then I would use RegSeeker to search for any left overs. Any thing in blue is safe to remove. I then would go into Regedit and do another search by typing in Ccleaner in find and then keep hitting F3 until all Ccleaner entries are removed. Then I would do a search with the Search Everything program to remove all left over files and folders. If any thing is still left after all that, it will just have to stay. Search Everything is a great program suggested by my good friend woz-of-ozz. In MHO, people that scare others about registry cleaners should spend more time explaining how to use them, and not scaring them. Just like any thing else, use a little common since when you run these cleaners and always have your OS backed up. IMHO cleaners that are used with common since are great ways to keep your PC running like the day you purchased it.===garybear

[So_sad]

Hi folks,

 

I won't speak for anyone else, but here's my view on registry cleaners, from a "security" point of view :

 

I don't recommend them on the forums where I hang out. Period. I don't because I've seen operating systems crash because of them, directly. Crash to a point where users had to reformat. Most of you here know that the Windows registry is a complex place, with dependancies between applications, etc... No two machines are alike, with different applications installed, etc...

A registry cleaner cannot process all possibilities, so it goes with what it can. The risks of crashing a machine are not high, but enough to warrant strong caution.

 

With an image of your system available, the risks are pretty much eliminated, so I won't tell guys like Gary to stop using them :mrgreen:

Learning to make images of your system requires time and experimenting ; when people show up on the forums with infections, we don't have time to teach them all of this ; keep in mind that those who are infected come to forums in a state of panic and/or high stress, so we keep things simple, clear, and take as little risk as possible. Once the machine is clean, then by all means, start discussing other strategies. If we have time, because more infected people are waiting...

 

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[itsmejjj]

CCleaner the one i love ..its not aggressive and have use it since the very first

make..

yes do be carefuller when using one ,and back up your system first..

i am inclined to agree with so sad.here..very good advice.

 

my add in here do not monkey about with the registry (editor) you take a big risk .editing or blindly ridding .just do not even start it.or explore it..very risky i never have nor want to play around with it..there is no need to.

as for uninstalling ok yes fine.ccleaner will take care of whats is useless.

and that is plenty.

 

look at the captured picks i use it with no fear!

 

itsmejjj.

[garybear]

Hi friend!!

 

Hi folks,

 

I won't speak for anyone else, but here's my view on registry cleaners, from a "security" point of view :

 

I don't recommend them on the forums where I hang out. Period. I don't because I've seen operating systems crash because of them, directly. Crash to a point where users had to reformat. Most of you here know that the Windows registry is a complex place, with dependancies between applications, etc... No two machines are alike, with different applications installed, etc...

A registry cleaner cannot process all possibilities, so it goes with what it can. The risks of crashing a machine are not high, but enough to warrant strong caution.

 

With an image of your system available, the risks are pretty much eliminated, so I won't tell guys like Gary to stop using them :mrgreen:

Learning to make images of your system requires time and experimenting ; when people show up on the forums with infections, we don't have time to teach them all of this ; keep in mind that those who are infected come to forums in a state of panic and/or high stress, so we keep things simple, clear, and take as little risk as possible. Once the machine is clean, then by all means, start discussing other strategies. If we have time, because more infected people are waiting...

 

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Hi good friend!! Should we then say to our members turn off or uncheck this feature?? Your advice is well taken, and you defiantly need to have a backup image of your Registry before you start cleaning it. I can only speak for myself. I have never had RegSeeker remove any thing that was related to my OS and caused a blue screen. I would think that RegSeeker would be very cautious about removing any thing to do with the OS and would operate the same way on all OS's (XP,Vista,Windows 7). I know we all have different App's and every PC is different, but RegSeeker wouldn't be around long if it caused BSOD.. I haven't been in the computer business very long, but I have just helped two friends clean up their PC's, and their speed was dramatically better. There was no way I could research 2500 entries, and so we made a backup image and pulled the trigger. No BSOD and no other know problems. I love my RegSeeker and I trust it on my PC and on my friends PC. ASC3 advertises that it will clean your PC and make it run better, and I'm a firm believer that it can and does. I know that the registry cleaner is only a small part of ASC3 ,but it's a great feature and has not caused me one problem. Thanks for your post my friend.I agree with you 100%.==garybear

[itsmejjj]

Should we then say to our members turn off or unchecked this feature??

yes if you use ccleaner .my answer is yes.or just use the iobitt cleaner.

using 2 can be risky ,and possible crashes.now i say possible,

but like you i do run it.

and 1 time a week comodo one. ask me why .i dont know .but this post started to make me think .just use 1 .take my own advice...

itsmejjj

[itsmejjj]

now here is my piont who is right!

ccleaner or ASC???

 

ran ccleaner first. than asc .big difference,..so do we let it fix or trust ccleaner? and leave it as is..

itsmejjj

[garybear]

Hi jjj!!!

 

now here is my piont who is right!

ccleaner or ASC???

 

ran ccleaner first. than asc .big difference,..so do we let it fix or trust ccleaner? and leave it as is..

itsmejjj

 

Hi friend!! Who do you trust?? IMHO, you find a registry cleaner you trust. I trust both Ccleaner and ASC3. I also trust eusing and RegSeeker. I recommend them all to my friends, and I also tell them to make a back up image of their OS. They all find different errors. So-sad is right on the money. If you don't know how to fix your ***** ups, then stay away from these cleaners. If you install and uninstall a lot of programs; registry cleaners are a must along with a full back up of your OS.===garybear

[So_sad]

I agree with both of you.

 

The last crash I saw on a forum was someone with CCleaner : they ran the Registry cleaner and boom, the OS would no longer boot. Why ? I have no idea. Someone once told me that CCleaner was safe to use for the registry because it asks you to do a registry backup first ; yeah, it does, but what good will that backup do if you can't boot anymore ? LOL. Answer : nothing.

 

One can back up the registry with Erunt ; if something goes wrong, you can get to your backup (Erunt) from Recovery Console. Quite simple, when you know how. Having a complete disk image is even better.

 

Like I said before, these crashes don't happen often and most of us will never see one on our own machines. But when you assist 10, 30, 50 people or more per week on security forums, you need to give advice that is as safe as possible for users. When you've seen two or three crashes from registry cleaners, you tend to not prescribe them to everybody. We musn't forget that many computer users don't really care about their machines... They just want them to work, get their emails, download their songs/movies and go to their Twitter/Facebook or whatever. Asking them to use disk imaging programs is way too much to ask, but they'll use registry cleaners left and right if they think they'll get more speed, and not worry (give a s**t) until they have big problems. Oops, too late ;-)

 

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[sunny staines]

these 3 i consider safe, never had a problem with them.

 

ASC Pro

 

ccleaner [registry & cleaning]

 

eusing

 

these 2 recommended [but be warned all pc's are different what works with me might not for you]

 

winaso is also good but have to deselect hp software it throws up in error.

 

regseeker the deepest registry scanner but check each line carefully

 

not found any others i could recommend out of loads i have tried

[titou56]

Hi friends :wink:

 

I've been using Ccleaner for long while now, may be since 2004... Moreover I was in charge of 25 computers And I've recomanded it so many time around me !

 

And I never had problem or heard about that ! Now I'am usin ASC both Ccleaner without any bug.

 

I believe there is, may be, some related problems about registry defrag softwares not about cleaners...

 

Best regards

[sunny staines]

Titou56

 

I use the registry defrag in winaso never let me down, can never get the iobit one to report defrag required I think its set too high to kick in, I did post once about the iobit defrag but no one from iobit answered.

[garybear]

Hi friend!!

 

Hi friend. " One can back up the registry with Erunt ; if something goes wrong, you can get to your backup (Erunt) from Recovery Console. Quite simple, when you know how. Having a complete disk image is even better."

Would you take the time to explain how this is done?? I would like to know and I', sure there are others also. Thanks friend!! ===garybear

[wozofoz]

Erunt

 

Hi gary, there is Detailed information at the ERUNT homepage, and you can find a link in This Thread

Something to read while you are waiting :smile:

 

All the best, woz of oz

[garybear]

Hi gary, there is quite a detailed explanation at the ERUNT homepage, and you can find a link in This Thread

Something to read while you are waiting :smile:

 

All the best, woz of oz

Hi friend!! Thanks!! Hope you all bear with me, I'm trying to learn typing 101 again, I forgot all how to do all this stuff==garybear. I hope this works lolI think I'm getting the hang of this, maybe my posts will look more professional. I'm getting smarter lol Lets see if I can underline!! I'll try different color.

[garybear]

Hi sunny!!

 

these 3 i consider safe, never had a problem with them.

 

ASC Pro

 

ccleaner [registry & cleaning]

 

eusing

 

these 2 recommended [but be warned all pc's are different what works with me might not for you]

 

winaso is also good but have to deselect hp software it throws up in error.

 

regseeker the deepest registry scanner but check each line carefully

 

not found any others i could recommend out of loads i have tried

 

Hi friend!! I use all of the below. I pull the trigger on all of them, and I have never had a problem with my OS that I know of. Just because I haven't had any problems don't mean every one will be so lucky. I've been doing it for years. I'm not recommending this behavior to anyone. I'm a dare devil and I take chances. I also know how to recover from just about every thing I do, so just because I can get away with this don't mean everyone can. So sad has good advice for those that don't use a back up program. My advice is get a back up program today and learn how to use it.==garybear

[itsmejjj]

I agree with both of you.

 

The last crash I saw on a forum was someone with CCleaner : they ran the Registry cleaner and boom, the OS would no longer boot. Why ? I have no idea. Someone once told me that CCleaner was safe to use for the registry because it asks you to do a registry backup first ; yeah, it does, but what good will that backup do if you can't boot anymore ? LOL. Answer : nothing.

 

One can back up the registry with Erunt ; if something goes wrong, you can get to your backup (Erunt) from Recovery Console. Quite simple, when you know how. Having a complete disk image is even better.

 

Like I said before, these crashes don't happen often and most of us will never see one on our own machines. But when you assist 10, 30, 50 people or more per week on security forums, you need to give advice that is as safe as possible for users. When you've seen two or three crashes from registry cleaners, you tend to not prescribe them to everybody. We musn't forget that many computer users don't really care about their machines... They just want them to work, get their emails, download their songs/movies and go to their Twitter/Facebook or whatever. Asking them to use disk imaging programs is way too much to ask, but they'll use registry cleaners left and right if they think they'll get more speed, and not worry (give a s**t) until they have big problems. Oops, too late ;-)

 

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yes this is right every word written,and yes most are like this,

but posting may, if even a few,wake them up a bit?

sometimes i wonder if it would.or will.and its more for our benefit.

the problem is ,lazy,or just start to read and then think ,whats this junk.

and pass over advice,or just plane know it all..

but that's the way it is .when i was a very young boy knew it all,

 

after all what did my parents generation know any how..any one over 30 were past it.any one over 50 shot or locked away.

itsmejjj

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[KiethJohn]

Hi all

CCleaner but one thing to keep in mind...when you install it, do not change anything about what it scans. Only if you're a pro do you change that stuff. Just keep it the way it comes, do a scan and delete everything, you'll be fine.

 

Best Wishes

KiethJohn

 

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