Why Norton ask users to uninstall Advanced Systemcare?

[stevenhwood]

Norton Who?

 

I had Norton back in the old DOS days and that is when they were about systems care, not so much antivirus, now that’s all you get, I think they get you when you buy a new PC with a 30 day free trial, so people just think that Norton is the best because so many people have it, No it’s because it came with the PC and they never researched Antivirus programs. Well I did, since the DOS days I have never liked Norton, they are power hungry, both on the PC and off. I researched and found ESET NOD32 and I don't have any issues between ASC3 PRO and NOD32. Both are doing what they were written to do. I don't know why people keep using Norton; My Dad was a Norton junkie, he felt as if his PC would die if it didn’t have Norton running, yea running up all his memory, but he had so many issues with it. After the constant yelling and banging on his keyboard and shaking his monitor, I uninstalled Norton and installed ASC3 PRO, Security 360 (also from IOBit) and ESET NOD32 Antivirus on his PC and wow it was like I turbo charged his old PC. If you’re having problems with Norton and it looks like they don't care about their customers, uninstall it and get something better, you don’t have to take it, remember you’re the customer. ESET has an uninstaller that will take every bit of Norton off. Check ESET NOD32 out for yourself. And there aren’t any issues running it with IOBit Security 360 either or any of the IOBit products, which I have the entire collection and all work as stated.

[pafe2009]

Norton problems.

 

I have had as a system administrator and network administrator so many issues with Norton the last decade, and I am already using in my network Advanced System Care a long long time + all it's tools. Nowadays if my company or I buy a new desktop or laptop (lately i bought one laptop myself) and Norton is (as a complimentary software add) already installed on it, the first thing i do is UNINSTALL it. Norton is a mess and has always been a mess.

[SimonKevNorris]

I know many people have problems with Norton in that they find it very intrusive.

 

I've been using Norton products since the old days of DOS.

 

I've got Norton Internet Security 2010 and it did not ask for Advanced System care Pro to be removed from my system.

 

I'm keeping both products on my desktop.

[BestRip]

I would like to say that Norton has not always been a mess. Some 15 - 20 years ago “Norton Utilities” was a brilliant tool for handling system (DOS) issues of many types and for several years it was "alone" or at least the undisputed number 1 in this area. I think this was the time when Norton earned such a wide acceptance in the world. Unfortunately for them this appears to be turning south.

 

I think that greed and a bloated self-importance have blinded the current company execs to think not about their customers but rather of their own wallets and not of the excellence of the product but of the prestige of the company, failing to realize that wallets fill from satisfied customers and the prestige of a company never will exceed the reputation of the product.

 

No doubt have they looked at the experts of selling inferior products for guidance. Unfortunately again for Symantec they are not, alike their role models, in a monopoly position with their software so they fall behind wherever the competition is overtaking the lead. Again they just failed to realize: it takes a legal staff of a few thousand to build and actively enforce the monopoly necessary to knock out any competition. This has to be said in Symantec’s defense, they have probably had the good taste not to follow that route fully. However I think there is less defense to be said for the product that needs all of these patches to work at all… just(?)kidding... :lol:

[teknocat]

I had no problem with Norton and ASC until recently. When I upgraded to ASCpro I stopped using the utilities components in Norton.Perhaps it had tempertantrum. Giving up Norton was easy.

[AL90]

I use ASC + Norton Internet Security 2010, no problems at all!

It's pretty wierd that some ppl encounter this :sad:

Calling the latest version of Norton Internet Security one of the worst is totally wrong. Indeed it's been quite crap in the past, I'd say it's top class now.

[buddha13]

HI all,

I have to agree with AL90. I have used many different av programs over the years. I have always found Norton IMHO to be **** and a system hogger par extreme. That is till I tried 2010.What a wonder to behold that was.They have finally got it right. As I said in my earlier post I did not get the remove ASC message when I installed Norton.

 

BUddha13

[AICS]

Norton and ASC

 

I run a pc repair business and for many years used Norton Products. When Symantec took over, things went downhill. I have used System Care in various versions for well over 5 years and installed it on hundreds of pc's without problems. I have run it alongside many other ant-virus/security products without problems. Why use Norton bloatware just because they install a trial on new pc's or pay for recommendations.

I currently use AVG internet Security with Iobit products, both small companies who both offer excellent free products for people to use and try.

I think it's appalling that Norton is using bullying tactics like this.

Perhaps Iobit should carry a note to this effect and point users to many of the other free or low cost Security Products which do as good a job if not better than Norton without slowing pc,s.

[dennis1959]

ASC vs Norton

 

Hey Guy's

 

I used to use Noton and thought it was good way back when, then i saw it became bloatware with many complaining about how it slowed their system down considerably.

 

right now i use Microsoft security essentials and ASC, i love ASC recomend it to all of my friends and family that have computers.

 

on the flip side i no longer recomend Norton as i once did long ago, i remember noton from the old dos days, it used to be a good product, but now i do not think so anymore.

[gradofan2]

Dump Norton...

 

Just dump Norton, or McAfee, or any other costly application... and... get the leading "free" security applications (e.g. Avast, Comodo, Avira, SuperAntiSpyware, Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Keyscrambler, etc.). You'll have as good, or better, security protection, and run bug free... if you... frequently scan your system and use AdvancedSystemCare. Why pay a premium for applications that are no better, which actively seek to exclude all other security and maintenance products. It makes no sense!

[Breezy90]

I have used both Norton and McAfee antivirus programs and would never use them again. Both seemed to be more trouble then they were worth, not to mention extremely expensive. In my search for a program that actually did what they claimed, I came across ASC. I tried the free program, then downloaded Security 360 and tried that program also on the free package. I had already purchased Webroot (about 40.00 for 2 years, much cheaper and seemed to work well). I have never had a compatability problem with these programs. I was so impressed with ASC and Security 360 that I purchased the Pro edition. I refer everyone to these programs. I'd take ASC over Norton any day. I know so many people who have removed Norton from their computers, I'm surprised they still have customers! You have a lifetime customer with me. Keep up the good work.

[dogdays]

Typical Symantec

 

Norton has always been a bit of a pain in the a-se. What with spatering the system with files that dont uninstall yet upset other security systems, down to issuing upgrades that stop the norton security upgrades from downloading.

 

All I did was remove the IO bit system care, Install 360 V4, then re-install the IO bit. It now works fine.

 

I note though that 360 V4 does not like defender andseems to block it as an intrusion.

 

 

Dear All,

 

This is IObit Guy from IObit.

 

Recently, we have received thousands of complaints from our users stating that Advanced SystemCare 3 has compatibility issues with Norton Internet Security 2010 and Norton 360 V4. Namely, both Norton Internet Security and Norton 360 V4 require uninstalling Advanced SystemCare 3 during their installation process.

 

According to our iterative and serious tests and feedback from millions of users, there is absolutely no compatibility problem!

 

Thus we started contacting Symantec on the issue. For the past few months we have been actively contacting Symantec and asking them to resolve this issue. However, they refused to fix it by telling us that this issue lies in both programs use real-time protection for spyware, virus and etc, and their engineering department has designed it that way on purpose. We explained to them that Advanced SystemCare 3 is only a system utility to diagnose and optimize Windows and there is no real-time security protection or monitoring in Advanced SystemCare 3. Still they refused to correct it without any solid evidence of their claims except repeating this untenable excuse.

 

IObit is a young and small Internet company, who keeps making high-quality and popular software for Internet users. We value every user’s rights and benefits and we don’t want to cause any trouble. IObit really wants this issue to be addressed by both parties, and we are doing our part. We want the giant corporation Symantec to fix this issue or else we have the reason to doubt that Symantec is taking unfair competition strategy to beat their they-believe-to-be competitors.

 

We always believe that Internet support fairness and justice, no matter you are a big company or a very small one. Thus we really need every Internet user's attention and support now!

 

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

[Sonny]

sonny

 

I found away to stop Norton from uninstall ASC I have e-mailed support at Advanced systemCare about this and it works you should all here from them soon.

[Sonny]

A go around for Norton

 

There is a way to stop Norton from uninstall ASC & Secuity 360 when you install Norton and I e-mailed Advanced System Care about it and it works you should here about it soon.

[CreativeCher]

Norton vs recycle Bin...and the winner is...

 

RECYCLE BIN, of course. There was a time when I was paying whatever [$39.95 or something] and thought there wasn't a world beyond Norton. Then I started to read ~ I was only 48 at the time, anyway. I've never been a techie but love my computers and technology in general; just don't want to know how to build one-not yet. So I'm on one of my favorite sites, MajorGeeks.com; checked out some of the forums because I'd been having some slow computer probs & picked up a few viruses along the way. Low & Behold there were many people :shock: out there asking for the details on how to get the hidden Norton stuff off their computers after they uninstalled it.

 

To shorten this ~ Many years later and I've tried various, but am now running AVG Free very successfully. And it's friends with everything! And listens to me when I tell it to do something.

[cookid]

Well It Might Be Norton Confused ASC With AVS

 

Part Of Norton Is Virus Checker

 

AVS Is The Virus Checker Too

 

It Not Good To Run 2 Virus Checkers At The Same Time

 

The Best Thing Of Avs & Asc Is That

 

These Programs Are Free

 

Norton Is Jelus Of That Too

[cookid]

i dont trust anything norton says anyway because i think that its a virus itself and anyone that uses it is putting there computer at risk...theres alot of free good anti virus software like avast ..its number one thats what i use

 

LIKE IN THE MOVE "THE NET" GATEWAY KEEPER WAS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT

 

BUT INSTEAD GIVE THE MAKERS OF THE PROGRAM ACCESS TO THE

 

COMPUTERS INSTEAD

[FredHavn]

Just read the above. Thanks for this 'headsup". I am the chap with F-Secure security Suite ( which is a 'free-bee' from my IS provider). Since I am not too happy with F-Secure as it seems to slow down my PC, I was about to buy Norton Security 2010 at the recommendation of the IT guys at Future Shop..will stop that idea until there is a resolution between the software Co.'s! One sale lost.

 

gkn

Try looking to ESET NOD32 for security. Shaw has F-Secure but ESET is far better.

[ckgrafik.com]

Why Norton asks users to uninstall Advanced Systemcare

 

Let me tell a story, I had used Norton for many many years, this was sometimes in 2005-2006. I loved norton utilities, especially win doctor. At that time I was working a lot on setup of e-mail clients for satellite communication on large mega yachts in Florida.

My customers had many different kind of computers they wanted me to setup this e-mail on and I did it with inmarsat and iridium sat phones.

When these customers laptops and computers failed when I tried to install these new network adapters into I learned that running the software called norton win doctor most often fixed these computers issues, and I could successfully setup e-mail adapters and setup the internet connection for voice and data on their system, using satellite phones.

Then later on I got problems and it all started when microsoft launched windows vista. Now the Vista did not accept me installing norton win doctor anymore, so what to do? I was frustrated, I had so far, successfully beeing able to fix "almost anyhing" with this nortons software. Now I had to look for something else and I began to search. Then I found a FREE software called Advanced System Care (It did not have this name back then,,,)

This was a suprise to me, a free software, doing exactly same thing as norton, but this was free of charge. I could continue fixing errors in win registry, and a lot more...

Another thing I experienced as well with Norton back then, if a customer had norton installed in their PC as anti software, it many times blocked me from setting up these sat phone applications, it hindered me in many ways, and manytimes gace such problems that we could not know what it was. When we realized it was Nortons strict security issues, I began to stop using norton as a anti virus. After this I began to install the free AVG antivirus combined with Advanced System Care and I had no problems with anything.

Today I use free AVG and FREE ASC and it all works prefectly. I might go with the ASC Pro some day to make it completely perfect. ASC Is one of the greatest software I ever seen and used, and I am NOT geting paid to say it, but if ASC want to send me a few buck now to pay for my food, I would not say no, you got my email...:smile:

I believe what Norton is trying here with this issue, is that since they have simliar software, utilities Win Doctor, and probably a win 7 and wista version also today, therefore ASC is compeeting with them and does not want any cooperation, it is a fight between two competitors. Therefore I suggest that ASC hooks up with AVG and make some sort of deal to promote each ones software, because they work great togehter...

I am very happy user of AVG and ASC and will recommend these software to anybody. These free softwares are SPAM FREE and does not have any kind of pop up ads or anything that will take power of your processor.

[swordsman5]

Norton is a no-no

 

Being an avid gamer I found that Norton was way too much of a process hog for my liking. It virtually takes over your machine, and as for the up-dates having to restart your computer every time....well it did when I last used it so I guess it's still the same, ... that was a real pain.

 

I'd strongly suggest to anyone using Norton that they uninstall it and throw the programme in the bin where it belongs. Since switching to AVG free I have had no compatibility issues with any other programmes , including ASC, and furthermore I haven't had an infection in the last 5 years either, and that is just the free version. There are a whole passel of good clean cheap/free programmes out there, why spend vast sums of money on a useless piece of software like Norton?????

[MTJLT]

Norton PCPirate V∞

 

Seems Norton uses the MS "Monopoly Playbook." Would that I could shout from the highest virtual housetop, "DON'T BUY NORTON! It's a resource-consuming, marketing scam!" Its packaging makes vast, partly-true features claims with no warning against installing it as an exclusive security utility and no hint of its voracious resource appetite; as if the system's one purpose is to run Norton software. The pity is Norton Utilities began life as inexpensive, efficient, effective system tools. Then they got $eedy and greedy.:twisted:

 

BTW: :idea:After my study of free AV utilities, I decided on avast! Antivirus. This week I was rewarded for my decision by avast! catching and eliminating two trojan horse threats. And avast! has no compatibility issues with IObit.:mrgreen:

[CarolD]

Norton's too slow and expensive.

 

I for my part have stopped using Norton products. I use the free version of avast and complete my protection with Emsisoft Anti-Malware which is very efficient and is half the price.

 

Furthermore, it works fine with ASC

[Bubbah]

Interesting!

 

I recently read the article from "Michael" the software engineer, and noticed that the email he got from Norton exhibited the same poor understanding of the English language. It kind of makes one wonder if they were written by the same people! Imagine that!

[kiwijkr]

re problem with Norton

 

Hi Everyone,

I am currently using the free edition of Avast Anti Virus program & have had no issues with advanced system care pro installation. The Avast program automatically updates your virus definitions & they have a advanced program available if you are prepared to pay for it. The free edition has been working just fine for the last 3 years on my computer.

Also I have found the Avast anti virus program way superior over the Norton program, far less hassles & uses much less resources (memory) on your computer. Norton tends to slow your computer down & is over rated, to be totally honest I had nothing but problems when I was running Norton Anti Virus on my computer.

The internet has become a much more pleasant experience since getting rid of Norton!

Cheers.

[Louie]

Ever since I started to use the PC back when CC (Christopher Columbus) brought them over, I immediately tried Norton. Come to find out that it was making more trouble for me that helping. The amount of memory it stole from my PC to be able to work was humongous. It didn't take long to sink in my mind that there could be out there plenty of other Anti-Virus programs that could do the job and probably better. Well, one thing led to another and now my PC works with 2 antiviruses and none are the jealous type. They co-exist charmingly. Avast is of all things, totally FREE.

 

I have yet to see a virus in my PC. At one time my PC was acting up and I read in KIM KOMANDO's news letter about if possible, installing a second anti-virus. So I followed her advice and now I have Malwarebytes’ Anti-Malware. They both reside in my PC trouble-less. I also have spyware programs. I use, (get a hold now) SpywareBlaster, and IObit Security 360. For cleaners I have CCleaner and IObit's Advance SystemCare. Never a prob. I lived happily ever after. But it tickles my curiosity why, having effective free Anti this and Anti that, people go through all their effort to let money companies fool them into buying.

 

Yes I buy, I have plenty of programs that I purchase from the net and just this week was my latest purchase. But there are some things that are free and possibly much more effective than the purchase software. I saw Norton's letter to a customer about not allowing IObit in your PC. But the letter is almost illegible because looks like the person doesn't even know how to write. How can you trust a company as irresponsible as that?

 

I have managed through the years to stay clear away from Norton and all those biggies that claim to be best! Not true! Shortly I will be investigating IObit pricing to become a regular.