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Why Norton ask users to uninstall Advanced Systemcare?


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Well i have a solution

 

i have just one question why are you all paying for Norton when this an abundence of free, and in the eyes of users better, software avalible like AVG for AV or Zone Alarm or Comodo for a firewall

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Here is an idea!

 

I don't know why anyone would use Norton to begin with! I have known people that had nothing but trouble with Norton anti-virus what with Trojans and spyware getting through that program and the Anti-Virus program letting viruses get through to begin with. Come on people wake up and use a different anti-virus program that does not interfere with IObit products. :shock:

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Even though I definitly think norton is the worst on the market, I absolutely don't recommend AVG or Mcafee. They are almost as bad as norton, just not quite. Nothing is truly free. If you want a good antivirus, you really should pay for one. I use Kaspersky (which in my opinion is the best), but even that doesn't get everything. Along with kaspersky I run spybot, iobit 360, spyware doctor, spyhunter, webroot, spyzooka, Paretologic antispyware, and many others that dont particularly come to mind. No, I dont actively run all of these, but if i suspect something I start all the scans.

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Why Norton in th first place??

 

As an IT professional with over 28 years of experience I have always been dumbfounded by 2 things. One is HP's and their INCREDIBALLY heavy footprint just to print a document, and 2 is WHY Norton??? Although it has an established name it really hasn't done ANYTHING recently to establish itself as a go to virus protection. It has one of the HEAVIEST footprints, messes with your functioning communication software pakages more than it actually helps and it just seems to be very COMMANDING and takes over so much of your client's abilities to function. I want to tell you that Iobit has been by far the BEST software package I have seen for cutting down the general problems on my clients workstations and I start off by recomending it to every new face I meet. I say if there is a conflict with Norton, TRASH Norton and get a REAL antivirus that is user friendly and is friendly to other software utulities. Like AVG or the BEST antivirus package which is made by eset. you can get it by visiting http://www.est.com - The ONLY antivirus software that can boast it has NEVER had a virus get past its filter... ;) has a very light footprint, very friendly with other software utulities like Iobit, and most importantly, IT WORKS!! :) Best of luck guys!!

 

Chris

 

"Becuase word of mouth is STILL the most powerful form of learning and resourcing!!" :mrgreen:

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Even though I definitly think norton is the worst on the market, I absolutely don't recommend AVG or Mcafee. They are almost as bad as norton, just not quite. Nothing is truly free. If you want a good antivirus, you really should pay for one. I use Kaspersky (which in my opinion is the best), but even that doesn't get everything. Along with kaspersky I run spybot, iobit 360, spyware doctor, spyhunter, webroot, spyzooka, Paretologic antispyware, and many others that dont particularly come to mind. No, I dont actively run all of these, but if i suspect something I start all the scans.

 

Now, I really don't like being negative or blasting someone as I believe there are a million different ways to accomplish the same goals... BUT C'MON!!! KASPERSKY!!!??? OMG!! WORST antivirus software ever made!! :) Secondly, Who the heck wants to load all that HEAVY software onto their system. What are you trying to protect?? and for FYI, I have some of the most FOOLISH clients you could possibly imagine. From visiting torrent sites to porn sites, they just like to get themsleves in trouble. BOTH of the clients I am thinking of have AVG and Iobit 360 and not one virus in 3 years! Let's be honest here folks, more than 85% of all viruses that successfully get through do so becuase our clients are too lazy to do updates, or without reading something they just immediately click on it and allow it to come in. If our clients were to follow through and maintain their updates and paid attention to what popups and emails they were opening, there would be such a drastic change in the amount of viruses transfered on the internet. So when it really gets down to it, TRAINING your clients, then charging them when they ignore the warnings or don't do the updates properly, then TRAINING them again is the way to keep your systems protected. As for whatever antivirus you use, the most IMPORTANT part of it is to make sure your clients know that this is only a FILTER, and its effectiveness is only as good as their ability to properly utulize the tool given them.

 

Chris

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Ya right chris! idk where you get your info, but kaspersky holds security features that no other antivirus includes in an all-in-one security suite.

Check the facts next time and get your story straight.

 

Your friend,

Zappp

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I stopped using Norton back in 2000. Way too overpriced, slugish, and gave too many false positives. I would recommend AVG, Avast (home or pro), Kaspersky or Nod32. Norton and Mcafee are at the very bottom of the barrel so to speak.

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I stopped using Norton back in 2000. Way too overpriced, slugish, and gave too many false positives. I would recommend AVG, Avast (home or pro), Kaspersky or Nod32. Norton and Mcafee are at the very bottom of the barrel so to speak.

 

I agree smoothie, exept for the fact that I would not use avg. I know too many people who have gotten viruses with it. However, avast is very good.

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Norton vs. IO 360, etc.

 

Have found Norton to be a liability. Protection is great, but it seems to be a resource hog. Have since ( last two years ), switched to Kaspersky. Best thing I ever did, from every angle ( security is 5 stars, updates are daily - someone is working 24/7 , resources are available all the time and it doesn't interfere with any other program I have tried).

 

Play around with the others if you like, but at least try Kaspersky.

 

Dave Vedder

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Have found Norton to be a liability. Protection is great, but it seems to be a resource hog. Have since ( last two years ), switched to Kaspersky. Best thing I ever did, from every angle ( security is 5 stars, updates are daily - someone is working 24/7 , resources are available all the time and it doesn't interfere with any other program I have tried).

 

Play around with the others if you like, but at least try Kaspersky.

 

Dave Vedder

 

Thank you for your reply! (finaly someone who supports kaspersky) it is the by far the best out there.

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So here is the most recent response I got, which was interesting...

 

erockin84 wrote:

 

 

 

I simply would like to know what Symantec has to say about this...

 

 

 

Edit: Here is the original IObit thread if you would like to see the post the IObit guy is responding to.http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=6826

 

 

 

He wrote:

 

With Norton 360 v4.1.0.32 and newer, there shouldn't be a compatibility conflict. In the thread you linked to, I don't see any information about the specific version that is being installed. Since they mention Norton 360 v4, I can assume that they're running N360 v4.0, and not the later updates that incorporate this change.

 

 

 

Additionally, v4.1 was released on March 31, 2010. Here's a link to the announcement:

 

http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-360/Norton-360-v4-NEW-UPDATE-4-1-0-32-Updated-April-6th-2010/m-p/217587#U217587...

Tony Weiss

Norton Forums Community Manager

Symantec Corporation

 

Anyone know if there is any truth to this? The Admin I talked to on their forums last night said they were working on the issue, and they would post an update on my thread, which seems to contradict this guy.

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I talked to a tech guy about 2 days ago and he said that they would make a compatible update. I dont think they will, I think they want you to use their program and forget iobit.

 

yeah actually the tech guy I talked to before I made the thread also said it was not compatible.

 

Edit: and didn't mention anything about an update, he just said it was because of real time protection, and that norton 360 had great features!

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Norton et al

 

agree with all the above but when writing to Norton tell them that you are removing your subscription on expiry, wont renew it and also wont recommend Norton to anyone. there are plenty of free anti Virus and security and most tests show they work as well as the Norton!

 

MJD

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Here is where I stand with Symantec... not much further than before but there's an admin at least. Been waiting for like 5 hours for a response, I would really like to see the patch notes.

 

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FYI, I have some of the most FOOLISH clients you could possibly imagine. From visiting torrent sites to porn sites, they just like to get themsleves in trouble. BOTH of the clients I am thinking of have AVG and Iobit 360 and not one virus in 3 years! Let's be honest here folks, more than 85% of all viruses that successfully get through do so becuase our clients are too lazy to do updates, or without reading something they just immediately click on it and allow it to come in. If our clients were to follow through and maintain their updates and paid attention to what popups and emails they were opening, there would be such a drastic change in the amount of viruses transfered on the internet. So when it really gets down to it, TRAINING your clients, then charging them when they ignore the warnings or don't do the updates properly, then TRAINING them again is the way to keep your systems protected. As for whatever antivirus you use, the most IMPORTANT part of it is to make sure your clients know that this is only a FILTER, and its effectiveness is only as good as their ability to properly utulize the tool given them.

 

Chris

 

For some reason my brother and I's computers at work are the only ones that aren't "broken." I'm not an IT guy, but I know how to update things and run them. People don't need to look at porn, they just need to stupid enough to think that if they have an AV installed, they're protected, they never have to run it or update it. And they click on every link in every email, etc. My brother didn't even open a birthday e-card from our dad, because it didn't say who it was from... from his work email, which has never once even gotten a spam message, just trying to show how paranoid we are.

 

My brother and I went around to every computer at work when Norton ran out and installed a few free things. One of us goes around maybe once every few months and runs ASC on all the computers, and you should see the crap it finds. I really should take a screenshot of the results. And for some reason, ours are the only computers that don't need to be replaced. But it's not the users fault, it's the computers, right? I work with complete idiots.

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Hi erockin84,

 

The link : http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-360/Norton-360-v4-NEW-UPDATE-4-1-0-32-Updated-April-6th-2010/m-p/217587#U217587 they have provided to you by Norton forum does not contain the announcement. The requested source is not available.

 

Regarding the compatibility issue, please have a look at my Norton 360 Version 4.0 vs Advanced SystemCare [NORTON says COMPATIBLE] post # 58 of this thread.

 

There, Norton accepts that there is no compatibility issue, and shows a solution in an official document dated 23rd of April 2010.

 

Unfortunately, the Norton technical personnel and Norton Forum members are not Aware of that official document of Norton.

You can remind that document to technical staff of Norton, who says there is a compatability issue.

 

As far as I understand from the complaints, the users of Norton and ASC are still having the problem, and Norton didn't doo anything to correct that in their setup configuration.

 

Cheers.

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Hi erockin84,

 

The link : http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-360/Norton-360-v4-NEW-UPDATE-4-1-0-32-Updated-April-6th-2010/m-p/217587#U217587 they have provided to you by Norton forum does not contain the announcement. The requested source is not available.

 

Regarding the compatibility issue, please have a look at my Norton 360 Version 4.0 vs Advanced SystemCare [NORTON says COMPATIBLE] post # 58 of this thread.

 

There, Norton accepts that there is no compatibility issue, and shows a solution in an official document dated 23rd of April 2010.

 

Unfortunately, the Norton technical personnel and Norton Forum members are not Aware of that official document of Norton.

You can remind that document to technical staff of Norton, who says there is a compatability issue.

 

As far as I understand from the complaints, the users of Norton and ASC are still having the problem, and Norton didn't doo anything to correct that in their setup configuration.

 

Cheers.

 

If you add "-p/217587#U217587" to the end of your link it should work, it works for me if I click it from the norton thread, but not here. Also the official document I linked to in the original post, unless it looks different to me than it does to you.

 

Edit: actually the official announcement link is in the beginning of the 2nd post.

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OK erockin84, I have added that part to the links and now all of them work.

 

Please elaborate the official document part of your post, I could't understand which is the original post and which is the 2nd post.

 

Thanks and cheers.

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OK erockin84, I have added that part to the links and now all of them work.

 

Please elaborate the official document part of your post, I could't understand which is the original post and which is the 2nd post.

 

Thanks and cheers.

 

The first and 2nd posts of the thread on the norton forum. The link you give for the official announcement, I link to it in the first sentence of the 2nd post on their forum, and to your post too actually.

 

Edit: oh I get it... you were looking at the screenshot I posted, that was just the last bit of it. the whole thing is at http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-360/IObit-and-Norton-Compatibility-Issues/td-p/233124

Edit: and I can't seem to navigate my way to their official document, I have to search for advanced systemcare on their site... I can't find the solutions library anywhere in support.

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Norton 360

 

This is Not the First Instance of Norton Security in past and Present

Versions, of Compatibility issues, And it may ask you to Uninstall / Disable Firewalls before installing Norton, and others such as A-Squared Hijack This, System Tweaker (Uni-Blue) A System Enhancement program which is no longer available, Thanks to Norton :( and other Male-ware programs that run in real time or not'

I am an IT Pro, i recognize Compatibility issues when i see them, its more of a priority issue with Norton 360, even when Norton doesn't ask u to Uninstall a Program, I have not encountered this on WINDOWS Vista, WIN 7, YET.

Only on Windows XP , if you have it on Vista /Win 7 , please reply to this post

with any steps, suggestions, to resolve this issue.

IOBit is the Best System Maintenance Programs i have seen.

To All you Norton Users,, GET AVIRA

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