Can't get auto-defrag to work....

[David Taylor]

Whatever I do, I can't seem to get auto-defrag to work. I know that the data on the system 100GB partition C: is turning over in excess of 10GB per day, and I have the following settings:

 

Auto Defrag tab:

 

Enable Auto Defrag: checked

Choose volumes: C: and T: selected (T: is a spare empty partition on the single HD).

Pause Auto Defrag: unchecked

Start Auto Defrag: unchecked

 

Windows-7 Home Premium

The Smart Defrag 1.50 icon is showing in the system tray (or whatever it's called today). The system normally runs 24 x 7, and was last rebooted two days ago.

 

I've compared settings with a friend and I seem to have the same, except that:

 

- he has 64-bit Windows

- he reboots every day

- he has UAC turned off.

 

Suggestions welcome.

 

Thanks,

David

[solbjerg]

Hi David

You report that you haven't activated Autodefrag, - and it will therefore probably not autodefrag :-)

If you do activate it you will have to wait for an autodefrag to finish before it will tell you that it has performed an autodefrag.

It will defrag when it will not interfere with the operation of the use of the computer - depending a bit on your settings.

Quite a lot of posts about autodefrag - please search and read those.

Cheers

solbjerg

 

Whatever I do, I can't seem to get auto-defrag to work. I know that the data on the system 100GB partition C: is turning over in excess of 10GB per day, and I have the following settings:

 

Auto Defrag tab:

 

Enable Auto Defrag: checked

Choose volumes: C: and T: selected (T: is a spare empty partition on the single HD).

Pause Auto Defrag: unchecked

Start Auto Defrag: unchecked

 

Windows-7 Home Premium

The Smart Defrag 1.50 icon is showing in the system tray (or whatever it's called today). The system normally runs 24 x 7, and was last rebooted two days ago.

 

I've compared settings with a friend and I seem to have the same, except that:

 

- he has 64-bit Windows

- he reboots every day

- he has UAC turned off.

 

Suggestions welcome.

 

Thanks,

David

[David Taylor]

Hi David

You report that you haven't activated Autodefrag, - and it will therefore probably not autodefrag :-)

If you do activate it you will have to wait for an autodefrag to finish before it will tell you that it has performed an autodefrag.

It will defrag when it will not interfere with the operation of the use of the computer - depending a bit on your settings.

Quite a lot of posts about autodefrag - please search and read those.

Cheers

solbjerg

 

 

I have checked Auto Defrag, and there is a green tick at the top of that box saying Auto Defrag is active. I understood that my friend did not have the Start (when idle for X minutes) checked. Are you saying that that box must be checked as well? It's very unlikely that the system will be idle even for one minute (and the same applies to my friend's system as well).

 

I did search for the Help information to learn more about these settings, but found none. I also looked at the thread titles here and saw nothing recent on Auto Defrag, but I will try the search as well.

 

Thanks for your help so far, solbjerg.

 

Cheers,

David

[solbjerg]

Hi David

This is my settings:

http://forums.iobit.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5794&stc=1&d=1281544333

By the way by Search I mean seach in the in the tool line in the forum

Cheers

solbjerg

 

I have checked Auto Defrag, and there is a green tick at the top of that box saying Auto Defrag is active. I understood that my friend did not have the Start (when idle for X minutes) checked. Are you saying that that box must be checked as well? It's very unlikely that the system will be idle even for one minute (and the same applies to my friend's system as well).

 

I did search for the Help information to learn more about these settings, but found none. I also looked at the thread titles here and saw nothing recent on Auto Defrag, but I will try the search as well.

 

Thanks for your help so far, solbjerg.

 

Cheers,

David

[David Taylor]

Whatever I do, I can't seem to get auto-defrag to work. I know that the data on the system 100GB partition C: is turning over in excess of 10GB per day, and I have the following settings:

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.

Suggestions welcome.

 

Thanks,

David

 

Folks,

 

I /may/ have found a solution, after a lot of perhaps unnecessary messing around. It seems that SmartDefrag may not initialise correctly when set to "start with Windows startup". In particular, if the taskbar takes longer to create than SmartDefrag allows, no system tray icon is created, and from then onwards no auto-defrag takes place. (SmartDefrag really should wait if creating its system tray icon fails rather than just proceeding ahead whether Windows returns a success or a failure code. I found this in my own TinyBen clock software: http://www.satsignal.eu/software/disk.html#TinyBen).

 

So try setting SmartDefrag /not/ to start with Windows, but after you have logged in and the taskbar is fully running, only then start SmartDefrag. This could perhaps be in a time-delayed batch job triggered by user login. The system tray icon is correctly created, and an auto-defrag was triggered some 30 minutes after login.

 

I won't have time to test this further for a few days, but I present this in case it helps someone else.

 

Cheers,

David

[vleutmans]

smartdefrag taskbar-icon tray-icon fix

 

Hi,

 

I had the same problem that the smartdefrag icon was not visible after startup on windows vista.

 

I experimented with the smartdefrag scheduled task, and found a fix.

 

The answer is as simple as to put a delay in starting up smart defrag after logon. This can be done in taskmanager.

 

workaround:

Only thing you have to do is "manually make a new task" for it, because smartdefrag automatically overwrites when you edit the existing task.

Also be sure to configure smartdefrag not to start up automatically

 

I made a new task with different name (example: smartdefrag_delayed)

 

In the task (copy of original smartdefrag task) I renamed it to new name, went to trigger settings and put a delay of 15 minutes in it.

Be sure to put "run at highest privileges" too.

 

Now after reboot, and after about 15 minutes smartdefrag icon is always visible :-)

 

Spread the news, and please put this 'necessary' delay in the code of smartdefrag schedule for future releases.

 

great tool, really like it !!

 

Br.

 

Michel

[David Taylor]

Hi,

 

I had the same problem that the smartdefrag icon was not visible after startup on windows vista.

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Spread the news, and please put this 'necessary' delay in the code of smartdefrag schedule for future releases.

 

great tool, really like it !!

 

Br.

 

Michel

 

Yes, it's surprising that many programs fail to create the system tray icon correctly, and my analog clock was amongst them until I fixed it. In essence, the code is straight-forward - something like:

 

timeout := 10; (minutes)

 

repeat

success := CreateSystemTrayIcon;

if not success then

begin

WaitOneMinute;

Decrement (timeout);

end;

until (success) or (timeout <= 0);

 

Cheers,

David

[Toppack]

The answer is as simple as to put a delay in starting up smart defrag after logon. This can be done in taskmanager.

 

Thanks Guys, for the Great Info !

[David Taylor]

Re: smartdefrag taskbar-icon tray-icon fix

 

The answer is as simple as to put a delay in starting up smart defrag after logon. This can be done in taskmanager.

 

.. although it would be better were the fix in the program's own code, and not require a user work-round. Let's hope it's in the next update.

 

Cheers,

David

[Toppack]

Re: smartdefrag taskbar-icon tray-icon fix

 

Hi,

II experimented with the smartdefrag scheduled task, and found a fix.

 

Spread the news, and please put this 'necessary' delay in the code of smartdefrag schedule for future releases.

 

Michel

 

Yes, that certainly Needs to be added in the next Update!

Since your fix is a little too complicated for the average user to do.

Version-2 ???

[tacker]

Auto Defrag Will Not Start

 

Although I am able to do a manual defrag just fine, auto defrag never starts, no matter what auto defrag settings I select. I have experimented changing or unchecking the pause and resources boxes, and this made no difference. It says auto defrag enbaled, but it never starts or reports that a defrag has occurred.

 

I am running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit and version 1.50.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

[solbjerg]

Hi tacker

What are your settings please?

I just ran an autodefrag (XP sp3) as a test - it took about 10 minutes - so perhaps a prerequisite to autodefrag is a bit of patience :-)

This is my autodefrag screenshot

http://forums.iobit.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5989&stc=1&d=1285240503

The cpu usage rose to 45% a couple of times during autodefrag - mostly around 5-10%

But the autodefrag didn't start until several minutes had passed even though it is set to start after 1 minute of idleness.

The autodefrag was the only program running except my AV during the test.

When is a computer really idle? :-)

Cheers

solbjerg

 

Although I am able to do a manual defrag just fine, auto defrag never starts, no matter what auto defrag settings I select. I have experimented changing or unchecking the pause and resources boxes, and this made no difference. It says auto defrag enbaled, but it never starts or reports that a defrag has occurred.

 

I am running Win7 Home Premium 64 bit and version 1.50.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

[tacker]

It's not an issue of how long it takes to run. I have run defrag in manual mode numerous times.

 

The problem is that the auto-defrag function never starts, even though it shows that it is enabled and even though I have experimented with different resources and idle settings, including having those boxes checked or unchecked. None of it matters. No matter how long my machine sits idle, defrag never starts automatically, and when one hovers the cursor over the icon in the tray, it shows no information for "last auto defrag."

 

More thoughts?

[solbjerg]

Hi tacker

I am not focusing on how long it takes - just reporting what happened by me today. (I am an ordinary user like you!)

I never use the autodefrag myself, but did do it today to give you some facts on how it works by me - clearly seen in my screenshot.

I suppose you have tried the Clean Install procedure?

Otherwise it may be some glitch in connection with Windows 7 (64bit)

An Iobit expert will have to determine that.

Do you mind sending screenshots of your settings?

Do you have many programs running in the background automatically or is your computer really idle?

Cheers

solbjerg

 

 

It's not an issue of how long it takes to run. I have run defrag in manual mode numerous times.

 

The problem is that the auto-defrag function never starts, even though it shows that it is enabled and even though I have experimented with different resources and idle settings, including having those boxes checked or unchecked. None of it matters. No matter how long my machine sits idle, defrag never starts automatically, and when one hovers the cursor over the icon in the tray, it shows no information for "last auto defrag."

 

More thoughts?

[tacker]

My setup is exactly like your screen shot. No auto defrag, ever.

 

Various programs running in background, like everybody's computer. usually, "idle" means that no person can be detected at the controls (keyboard), but no idea what Smart Defrag thinks "idle' means.

 

It doesn't seem like anybody has a solution, so far. Does Iobit monitor this forum?

 

Thanks.

[solbjerg]

Hi tacker

Some IObit representative will surely read this post and perhaps ask one of their programmers what the problem can be.

From my screenshot you can see that the actual defrag started after about 6 minutes idleness even though it was set to start after 1 minutes idleness (the recommended setting is 5 minutes) - it then finished in about 4 minutes - not many items to defrag -as the legend shows.

Idleness must mean that the cpu isn't using many resources in my opinion.

It must mean that it should be the computer that is idle - not the person :-)

Does Win 7 security settings block SmartDefrag activity?

Have you/must you allow the program to run automatically?

Or is it perhaps the 64 bit setup that are causing trouble??

Cheers

solbjerg

p.s. By the way IObit recommends that running programs are closed also the AV to make the defragmentation go faster, that message is seen somewhere in the information about the program, I don't right now remember where - possibly during Install.

 

My setup is exactly like your screen shot. No auto defrag, ever.

 

Various programs running in background, like everybody's computer. usually, "idle" means that no person can be detected at the controls (keyboard), but no idea what Smart Defrag thinks "idle' means.

 

It doesn't seem like anybody has a solution, so far. Does Iobit monitor this forum?

 

Thanks.