Question about unmovable files in WIN2k

[davexnet]

Hello, I've got about 15 files marked as unmovable in

Smart Defrag, here's one of them:

I:\Documents and Settings\Davexnet\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\p9d6w2na.default\urlclassifier3.sqlite

 

The file is an sqlite database for Firefox. SD tells me it's in 312 fragments

and is unmovable.

 

I navigated to the folder in Explorer and cut/pasted it to a 2nd drive,

then cut and pasted it back. Now it's in 2 fragments.

 

What is it about this file that makes it unmovable in SD's eyes?

Other files that exhibit this problem are *.msp files,

Windows Installer patch files.

 

Thanks for any info.

[enoskype]

Hi davexnet,

 

Could it be that the Firefox was in use when you run SD?

 

Did you try stopping everything related to Firefox in Task Manager and then defragmenting that file?

 

Second alternative is, you can try unlocking the file with Unlocker 1.8.9, and use SD again to see if it defragments the file.

 

Cheers.

[davexnet]

HI enoskype, the file is definitely not locked. I moved it to and from a

second drive without problems.

 

It's also not an SD issue. I tried it with a competitor, JKDefrag

and that couldn't defrag these files either.

 

I assume both products use the same Windows API,

so apparently Windows doesn't want to move these files.

 

Question is, why ?

[enoskype]

Hi davexnet,

 

I have specifically created the same situation (fragmented urlclassifier3.sqlite file), and when Firefox was active (in the Task Manager) that specific file could not be defragmented, but exiting FF, and checking that there is nothing running about FF in Task Manager, it was possible to defrag the file.

 

Of course, it was a different OS, as I was using XP Pro.

 

You are right that SD uses the same Windows API.

 

I have tried the same thing with Ultimate Defrag, and although it did not defragment it with "Fragmented files only", but defragmented with single file defragmentation.

 

I am not familiar with Win2k, so it may be a glitch peculiar to that OS.

 

Cheers.

[davexnet]

A I mentioned I got that particular file from 133 fragments to 2,

simply by moving it and moving it back.

 

I also had 5 or 6 *.msp files that likewise, were apparently

unmovable. I looked in Explorer and noticed I had set the folder

and associated file to NTFS compressed.

 

Does the fact that the files are compressed make it harder to defrag?

 

(I have since uncompressed them). I ran a "defrag only" operation this morning,

some of them were still marked a unmovable .

 

 

I could try running from BART PE boot disk, but its so slow on this old box.

I'll see if I can test it this afternoon.