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  • Windows defragmenter - conflict with Smart Defrag?

    Hi.

    I was wondering if Windows built-in weekly defrag schedule should be disabled or not.

    I've seen that after intsalling Smart Defrag, the default windows weekly defrag schedule remains untouched.

    I believe that windows scheduled defrga must be disabled, but then, why Smart Defrag doesn't disable it when installed?

    I guess that Windows Built in defragmenter will conflict with Smart Defrag, and perhaps what Smart Defrag have achieved in a week will be undo when Windows Defragmenter is exectuded by the weekly scheduled task.

    Iobit, can you further explain and clarify this?
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  • #2
    Hello ektorbarajas,

    Welcome to our forum.

    If you use Smart Defrag to care your disks, you can disable Windows built-in defrag.

    Please feel free to contact us if any further question.
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    • #3
      Hi Cicely,

      The point here is that average users are unaware of this, so Windows built in defrag will remain scheduled to run once a week... so, in this scenario I guess that what is happening is:
      1) Smart Defrag optimized & defrag the drives
      2) then Windows Defrag is executed
      3) and Smart defrag optimizations and defrag are undone

      So the result of this is that there are periods of time where the HDDs are not fully optimized, and this happens at least once a week and so on....
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      • #4

        May I ask for the operating system that you are currently using? If you are running windows vista or 7 the disk defragmenter will run automatically.

        To disable the windows defragmentation process please check this link. try to give it a shot to see what will happen.
        To turn off the built-in Windows defragmenter, go to the Start menu and type "defrag" into the search box, and open Disk Defragmenter. Inside Disk Dragmenter, click on "Configure Schedule" and uncheck "Run on a Schedule."

        Cheers!!

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        • #5
          Hi ektorbarajas,

          iotop offer a suggestion. Hope it can help you.

          Cheers.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by iotop View Post
            May I ask for the operating system that you are currently using? If you are running windows vista or 7 the disk defragmenter will run automatically.

            To disable the windows defragmentation process please check this link. try to give it a shot to see what will happen.
            To turn off the built-in Windows defragmenter, go to the Start menu and type "defrag" into the search box, and open Disk Defragmenter. Inside Disk Dragmenter, click on "Configure Schedule" and uncheck "Run on a Schedule."

            Cheers!!
            Hi iotop,

            Well done. Thank you for helping us with this issue.

            Cheers.
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            • #7
              Hi, I clearly understand iotop suggestion and know how to do it, but my main concern here is not being addressed:
              • The point here is that average users are unaware of this, so Windows built in defrag will remain scheduled to run once a week... so, in this scenario I guess that what is happening is:
                1) Smart Defrag optimized & defrag the drives
                2) then Windows Defrag is executed
                3) and Smart defrag optimizations and defrag are undone

                So the result of this is that there are periods of time where the HDDs are not fully optimized, and this happens at least once a week and so on....














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              • #8
                Hello ektorbarajas,

                Sorry about the previous misunderstanding.

                As the Windows built-in defrag run regurlarly, Smart Defrag may not defrag automatically when the fragmentation rate didn't reach the condition. Thus, it seems that Smart Defrag doesn't run properly. However, there is no conflict and nothing wrong.

                Cheers.
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                • #9
                  Hi, Sorry for resuscitating this thread, but I'm still concerned about why when SmartDefrag is installed, the WIndows built-in weekly defragmenter it NOT disbaled.

                  I guess that Windows defrag works with a totally different approach than SmartDefrag, hence when Windows built in defragmenter weekly defrag is scheduled, ALL what was achieved with SmartDefrag will be undone and so Windows defrag and SmartDefrag will contnue to fight against each other on a weekly basis:
                  WIndiows defrag undoing what SmartDefrag has achieved and then Smart Defrag undoing what Windows defrag has achieved.

                  Please your further assistance and clarification with this.
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                  • #10
                    Hi there,

                    Could you please give us details about that they undo what the other has achieved?
                    ?
                    Waiting for your reply.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cicely View Post
                      Hi there,

                      Could you please give us details about that they undo what the other has achieved?
                      ?
                      Waiting for your reply.
                      Hi Cicely,

                      I suppose Smart Defrag has a different approach than windows defag.

                      So the fact that SD when installed is NOT disabling windows defrag weekly schedule will probably generate the following:

                      1) SD is automatically defragmnenting and optimizing the HDDs
                      2) then when a week has passed the windows built in defrag is executed and so the windows approach in defrahmenting is performed
                      3) so at this point ALL what SD has defragmented and optimized will be partially or completely undone due to the weekly windows built in deftag
                      4) after windows weekly defrag is executed again SD will have to re-do what Windows defrag has undo

                      Hope that now my point is fully understood

                      Regards
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                      • #12
                        Hi there,

                        Did check the checkbox "Replace Windows Disk Defragmenter" in Defrag Settings?

                        Waiting for your reply.
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                        • #13
                          Yes. I checked that option in SD. But to my understanding this is just to launch SD when windows disk defrag is manually evoqued
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                          • #14
                            Hi there,

                            Please give us the detailed information which is undone by each other. A screenshot will be very helpful.

                            Waiting for your reply.
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                            • #15
                              Hi, let me explain it in a simplier way:

                              Consider the following which is true for ALL windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 default installations:

                              Windows defragmenter is scheduled to run on a weekly basis.

                              So now:

                              1) SD is installed and set to auto defrag all the HDD and EHDD

                              2) so SD in about 3 or 5 days have defragmented and optimized the disks. And perhaps also the user manually has triggered further optimizations using SD

                              3) days passs and the day where windows built in defragmenter is executed.

                              So at this point, perhaps when windows defrag is executed it will defrag the disk drives in the way that windows thinks they are defragmented AND perhaps this is TOTALLY different from what SD does as “smart defrag”

                              4) so as soon as windows defrag finishes, all the progress and optimizations achieved by SD are totally undone and all the effort in those precious days is gone.

                              5) then SD AGAIN starts from zero (or almost zero) to defrag and optimize the disks.

                              And so on...

                              Hope this is clear now.

                              I suppose that when SD is installed it should disable any windows defrag scheduled task.
                              DJ ektorbarajas:
                              http://ektorbarajas.blogspot.mx/

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