need better defrag than M$ throws in

[rhin0]

I have this laptop with winXP installed on the C: disk which has 15 GB.

It is very full and is fragmented. I try using the Windows defrag in

Accessories -> System Tools -> Disk Defragmenter but it says it can't

do it without more space. It asks me to delete some files and try again.

Well, I can't do that, because I need all the junk in there.

 

Now, on this 320GB hard disk, on this same laptop, I also have 140GB D:

disk which is almost empty. There is also another 160 GB of unallocated

space.

 

Does anyone know if Smart Defrag2 can work with some of this unused

space and/or some of the free space on D: to do the defragmenting job

on C: ?? Like using the space OTHER THAN C: as scratch space DURING

the defragmentation process, but in the end, restore files and folders back

on C: and LEAVING the D: files and folders on D:\.

 

I know that this is conceptually possible but is it possible using Disk Defrag?

 

thanks for your help :-P

 

r0

[Toppack]

SD2 needs a fairly large amount of work-space Also.

 

Can you temporarily Move some large folders from the C: drive, to another drive or partition,

then do the Defrag,

then Move them back, if you must?

 

Just make sure do don't try to Move System needed folders.

 

With Windows-7 you can Transfer your Complete C: drive to another drive, fairly easily,

but I think you will need 3rd-party software, since you have XP? (I don't remember about XP, for sure)

[rhin0]

Can I move the files?

 

when you ask this question, is that an admission IOW, that SmartDefrag2

is not able to do what I am asking? Is there no way to check an option

box, so that it can use the abundance of disk space ON THAT SAME 320GB

DRIVE to reorganize the file fragments wherever empty free space exists?

 

If it cant'. How about this: Is there another product, free or otherwise,

which CAN do this?

 

Reason being, I could probably work at moving files, folders MANUALLY,

over to D:\, and then after SD2 finishes, to repeat the MANUAL move

process in reverse. First off, I don't trust myself not screwing up the

moves. Second, I am not knowledgeable enough to know WHAT KINDS

of files/folders can be safely moved. For instance, what sort of registry

information exists, which would be checked by WinXP, and when discovered

that some file which registered to reside at file path C:\xxx\yyy\zzz is

now suddenly discovered residing at D:\xxx\yyy\zzz, then what will winXP

do to the system? I don't know what kinds of meddling would corrupt

the filesystem, or crash the system, leading to corruption. :sad:

 

r0

[Toppack]

As far as I know, All Defrag programs require free work-space to operate

and the work-space can not be on another drive. :-(

 

Eventually you will need a larger C: drive,

so if it was my computer I would Transfer the OS and everything

to a Larger drive.

If you are not sure you can do that or Move folders yourself, then maybe you can find someone there that can help you do that.

 

When you upgrade to Windows-7 or 8, you will definitely need a larger C: drive.

[rhin0]

Maybe I should ask HOW you would go about Transfering the OS

and everything to a larger drive? I wouldn't know how-to SAFELY do that.

 

Is there a "Super" copy app which can do that?

 

How about one of those "SYNC" programs? Will they copy everything safely and then be able to boot from the copy disk?

 

r0

[Toppack]

With Windows-7 you can Transfer your Complete C: drive to another drive, fairly easily.

W-7 includes a program to do that.

but I think you will need 3rd-party software, since you have XP?

I think there was a program to do that with XP, but I don't remember what it was called.

Maybe you could do an Internet Search to see what is available.

It is called 'Operating System Transfer' software.

 

'sync' will not do the OS.

[solbjerg]

Hi rhin0

How about your partition program? Can't that enlarge your partition?

I do not myself use partitions - instead I have 3 physical harddisks where I use the 2 of them to keep my C: drive with lots of free space (more than 50% free), this means that it does not fragment as easily.

Cheers

solbjerg

 

 

Maybe I should ask HOW you would go about Transfering the OS

and everything to a larger drive? I wouldn't know how-to SAFELY do that.

 

Is there a "Super" copy app which can do that?

 

How about one of those "SYNC" programs? Will they copy everything safely and then be able to boot from the copy disk?

 

r0

[Melvin_Deal]

Yes... strange partitions...

 

Why is it so vitally important to keep the C: drive so small? If you indeed have a machine with so much HD capability (laptop) and loaded with xp then the machine has been modified. Laptops pre-loaded with XP at the time didn't come with 300+ gig HD's built in...there isn't room physically.

 

Remove/modify the partition and you will have the space.

 

Move a few large files (video) to allow the defrag.

 

Upgrade the OS to Win 7. Then transfer.

 

There is information here not disclosed...????

 

 

 

Sincerely,

-Mel

Live long and prosper