Accusation Thread - Dispute

[bags]

How should they respond to a Wilders/Malwarebytes incited lynch mob??

 

Well Hell yes it is "pretty convincing"!!

It is their side of the story!!

Can Iobit have a chance to present their side??

 

Yes, I am a proud fanyboy of due process.

 

Care to tell me why I as a paying customer of your company - a company who has its prime function to protect me from spyware - foist a 3rd party toolbar on me that I cannot uninstall - which in fact is an adware that is reporting my keystrokes - and you are being paid for it?

 

Then when I object, and ask for a refund you state the 30 day period is over. Well, I didn't know you would become the enemy did I?

 

Your shabby business practices is going to end you. The main download sites are being petitioned very heavily right now to remove you, and I will be proud to add my voice to the chorus against you.

[wozofoz]

Politics in political forums please

 

@ Bags

 

philmccrackun and StJohns have quietly and respectfully sorted out their misunderstanding.

 

In post# 14 you have posted your opinion on politics, you are welcome to it but if you wish to express it should take it to a political forum and express it there.

 

Just so you know, since post# 14 can only serve to stir political debate/argument I can see no use for it here and so I have reported it.

I repeat, take your political opinions to a political forum.

 

By the way, I am not a Mod or Admin just a member

[bags]

@ Bags

 

philmccrackun and StJohns have quietly and respectfully sorted out their misunderstanding.

 

In post# 14 you have posted your opinion on politics, you are welcome to it but if you wish to express it should take it to a political forum and express it there.

 

Just so you know, since post# 14 can only serve to stir political debate/argument I can see no use for it here and so I have reported it.

I repeat, take your political opinions to a political forum.

 

By the way, I am not a Mod or Admin just a member

 

How utterly lame. It is defense of a reasonable and misunderstood statement by a previous poster. I am not the one that said the word racist first. I offer a very even tempered and well balanced definition of terms, and that is politics?

 

You words seem strange using a filter of common sense. May I report an affront to common sense here?

[bags]

@ Bags

 

philmccrackun and StJohns have quietly and respectfully sorted out their misunderstanding.

 

In post# 14 you have posted your opinion on politics, you are welcome to it but if you wish to express it should take it to a political forum and express it there.

 

Just so you know, since post# 14 can only serve to stir political debate/argument I can see no use for it here and so I have reported it.

I repeat, take your political opinions to a political forum.

 

By the way, I am not a Mod or Admin just a member

 

You say you are not a Mod or Admin, but on 10/26/09 wrote this snippet in a post:

 

"The misinformation in your first post was corrected and you were offered a full refund.

50 days later you return and bombard us with this big red rant."

 

Perhaps it is a language barrier - so sorry - but your knowledge of a customers specific refund situation seems to indicate you know very much about internal matters at IObit. Your phrase "bombard us" also seems to indicate a familiar relationship.

 

Can you set my mind to rest please? I am afraid I am talking to a member of the company.

[samr]

OK,

Enough on this subject. Please keep the subject to the intent of the thread.

samr.

[StJohns]

Care to tell me why I as a paying customer of your company - a company who has its prime function to protect me from spyware - foist a 3rd party toolbar on me that I cannot uninstall - which in fact is an adware that is reporting my keystrokes - and you are being paid for it?

 

Then when I object, and ask for a refund you state the 30 day period is over. Well, I didn't know you would become the enemy did I?

 

Your shabby business practices is going to end you. The main download sites are being petitioned very heavily right now to remove you, and I will be proud to add my voice to the chorus against you.

 

 

Since I am being quoted here,MY company is a mail-order provider of Muslim clothing.

Need a nice Egyptian cotton thobe?

My relationship with IOBit,is as a user.(Advanced Windows Care).

 

My Stake in the whole thing?

A sense of fair play,and a hatred of mob "justice"..

[samr]

Please read the Declaration from Iobit:

 

http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807

[StJohns]

Please read the Declaration from Iobit:

 

http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807

 

 

Works for me.

Pretty much the way I saw it all along.

The Malwarebytes crew are not nice folks.

[Krissy]

Declaration from IObit

 

We have never used the database of any other companies. And hope Malwarebytes stop spreading malicious rumors for hyping itself. The ridiculousness: who will trust and depend on a security product that can NOT even protect itself?

 

A legal letter will be released later, which will prove that there is no problem with Intellectual Property Rights.

 

For the sake of avoiding dispute and possible problems, we have deleted all disputed items in our database temporarily, and have updated IObit Security 360’s database.

 

Our database is from the online submission form: http://db.iobit.com/deal/sdsubmit/index.php

 

We also have many various sources of malware samples from warm-hearted users, computer security fans, and major security groups from all over the world. We have admitted that it’s hard to avoid mistakes, like a silly or duplicated name. But there is in no way means we steal Malwarebytes’ or any other's database. We are investigating and tracking on those items which Malwarebytes declared stolen.

 

We have so many independent and objective reviewing tests and reports; everybody can download and view from the link: http://forums.iobit.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25. We believe that, after viewing these test report, you can judge that if we steal database from Malwarebytes.

 

Thanks for the always support of IObit users.

[StJohns]

Thank you Krissy.

This is not the first time Malwarebytes, egged on by fanboys, and so called "security experts" ,have shown their true colors.

In Addition to their Vendetta aginst SSUpdater for exposeing the puny detection of static malware,they have also objected to being tested as a "complete Anti-Malware solution",despite their claim to be one!!

 

The Wilders Expert pundits should take a momment to reflect on the real amount of power they have.

 

How many years did they (rightly or wrongly),bash Norton?

 

It retained the Market Share.

 

How many years did they bash IE browser?

 

Still has the market share!!

 

IOBit will be making good,simple ,secure software for end users long after

The Wilders crew have abandoned Malwarebytes,(as the already have turned on SuperAntiSpyware), for the new flavor of the day.

[Tim Xue]

When Lavasoft goes down, Malwarebytes becomes popular. There is always hard competition in the security market.

[solbjerg]

Test of database difference

 

In one of the most recent tests (done by LagerX) this result was shown:

http://forums.iobit.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2338&d=1257245855

 

How is that possible if the databases of IS360 and MBAM were the same?

Cheers

solbjerg

[malkiller]

hi all

 

Because of these claims against Iobit and Iobits lack of a coherent explanation i have uninstalled all Iobit software I am sorry i paid good money for your product... fell free to delete my account .............

[fenzodahl512]

Sorry IOBit but the allegation is sound.. I even do a quick test run on it.. The accusation is valid..

 

What on earth you think to detect Malwarebytes' keygen as "Dont.Steal.Our.Software.A" ??? That's very-very obvious.. Malwarebytes' is NOT your software lol..

 

http://www.boredomsoft.org/articles/Media/IOBit_MB_cache_screentshot.png

[testando]

StJohns, Stop making a fool of yourself, you're pretty much a big one already by paying for a so called company that steals from others and sells it to fools like you, and even denying while your beloved security tool is standing there with other companies medals in their hand.

 

[TrekCaptainUSA]

I understand the innocent until proven guilty thing, but the evidence against Security 360 is extremely overwhelming. This might make it much harder for IObit to continue keeping Security 360.

 

NOTE: I am not a supporter of one or the other. I actually don't actively use Malwarebytes, or this, however, I do track the changes in the computer security sector. If I seem overly against IObit, or overly biased, I do not mean to be. I have done independent research of this issue on my own, however, and my own research seems to support Malwarebytes' claims.

[testando]

They do the same thing as your beloved IObit security suite,

offer you the work from others, the only difference between a crack and

IObit is, that a crack is spread freely, while IObit is sold to people.

 

So what's the conclusion, this security suite is far more evil, since its """developers""" steal from others and sell it to unknown victims.

[noemailtome]

Do not see this with one eye

 

I do not trust MalwareBytes junk. What is the proof that the exe is developed by Malwarebytes and not by IOBIT. It is night time in China. Let the dragon awake.

 

IOBIT I am with you :shock:

[testando]

I do not trust MalwareBytes junk. What is the proof that the exe is developed by Malwarebytes and not by IOBIT. It is night time in China. Let the dragon awake.

 

IOBIT I am with you :shock:

 

That's a pitty, since your beloved company uses that junk's signature base to let you pay.

Don't you feel like a complete jackass now ?

[testando]

This here is a pitty too, and this one even more :oops:

http://iobit.com/Images/iscompare.gif

[bob3160]

I've recommended this program from it's first release.

 

Until this dispute has been settled, I'll have to stop recommending

IObit 360.

 

Until this controversy is settled, I'll also have to stop endorcing any of the other programs produced by IObit. Sorry. :cry:

[titou56]

Unbelievable

 

Hi,

 

Some time ago a great artist has been accused of child molestation ... The media and the crowd followed and are delivered to the curia, as you now! By the way wolves To which one throws a chicken carcass!

 

Recently the boy told the truth: nothing had happened, his father asked him to lie for money.

 

Alas, the singer's reputation was tarnished forever ... The rumor always leaves a trace!

 

Very recently the artist has died ... You have lauded, lamented, mourned

 

That you have not served as a lesson?

 

Cheers

[bags]

Hi,

 

Some time ago a great artist has been accused of child molestation ... The media and the crowd followed and are delivered to the curia, as you now! By the way wolves To which one throws a chicken carcass!

 

Recently the boy told the truth: nothing had happened, his father asked him to lie for money.

 

Alas, the singer's reputation was tarnished forever ... The rumor always leaves a trace!

 

Very recently the artist has died ... You have lauded, lamented, mourned

 

That you have not served as a lesson?

 

Cheers

 

I had reason to like IObit from March 2009 until 10/29/09 - but now have had reason (that toolbar disaster) to rue my payment to IObit since. I will wait for the final curtain to fall before I have a final opinion.

 

If these other companies that MWB's claims to have found traces of also come out with legal charges against you what then?

 

More MJ defenses?

[amiyuz]

Some Clue

 

I do not trust MalwareBytes junk. What is the proof that the exe is developed by Malwarebytes and not by IOBIT. It is night time in China. Let the dragon awake.

 

IOBIT I am with you :shock:

 

I guess that IObit got this attack and rumors because of their opening test, here is a good clue: http://ssupdater.com/modules/Forums/index.php?showtopic=5386&st=0. Internet is a good thing, vice visa; it’s not a good staff because there are so many attackers make use of spreading bad word.

[LagerX]

I'm not defending IObit nor Malwarebytes, but I personally wont hurry with speculations. I've tested MBAM and IObit together with other similar products. With on demand test, their detection rate was almost the same.I can not say why's that. But for infected computer test, they did not detect same things/files etc.

 

I think that if IObit "stole signatures from many vendors", then it's out of a question that it might have really good detection rate. But is it?

 

If I were IObit, then I am smart enought to think that "stolen sigs" case will see daylight sooner or later. Will they risk? I don't think so.

 

Yesterday I got a computer with smgr32.exe or something else (virus).

First I ran IObit which detected a rogue registry repairer or something. After removing it, MBAM detected the real threat - smgr32.exe, and removed it. I sent that sample to IObit too.

 

I don't think that some samples show theft. It looks suspicious enought, but lets see...